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(回答先: こんな記事があったのに、削除？ラムズフェルド国防長官の失言 投稿者 ドッグマン 日時 2003 年 4 月 12 日 20:32:10)
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And they're doing a terrific job. And it's untidy. And freedom's untidy. And
free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things.
They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things.
And that's what's going to happen here. . . .
でしょう。
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Rumsfeld's Words on Iraq: 'There Is Untidiness'
Following are excerpts from an exchange between Defense Secretary Donald H.
Rumsfeld and reporters yesterday during a news conference in Washington, as
recorded by Federal News Service Inc. A full transcript is available online at
nytimes.com/iraq.
Q. Television pictures are showing looting and other signs of lawlessness. Are
you concerned that what's being reported from the region as anarchy in Baghdad
and other cities might wash away the good will the United States has built? And
are U.S. troops capable of or inclined to be police forces in Iraq?
MR. RUMSFELD Well, I think the way to think about that is that if you go from a
repressive regime that has ・it's a police state, where people are murdered and
imprisoned by the tens of thousands, and then you go to something other than
that, a liberated Iraq, that you go through a transition period. And in every
country, in my adult lifetime, that's had the wonderful opportunity to do that,
to move from a repressed dictatorial regime to something that's freer. We've
seen in that transition period there is untidiness. And there's no question but
that that's not anyone's choice.
On the other hand, if you think of those pictures, very often the pictures are
pictures of people going into the symbols of the regime ・into the palaces, into
the boats, and into the Baath Party headquarters, and into the places that have
been part of that repression. And while no one condones looting, on the other
hand, one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of
repression, and people who have had members of their family killed by that
regime, for them to be taking their feelings out on that regime.
With respect to the second part of your question, we do feel an obligation to
assist in providing security, and the coalition forces are doing that. They're
patrolling in various cities. Where they see looting, they're stopping it, and
they will be doing so. The second step, of course, is to not do that on a
permanent basis but, rather, to find Iraqis who can assist in providing police
support in those cities. . . .
Q. Given how predictable the lack of law and order was, was there part of
General Franks' plan to deal with it?
A. Of course.
Q. Well, what is it?
A. This is fascinating. This is just fascinating. From the very beginning, we
were convinced that we would succeed, and that means that that regime would end.
And we were convinced that as we went from the end of that regime to something
other than that regime, there would be a period of transition. And you cannot do
everything instantaneously; it's never been done, everything instantaneously. .
. .
Let's just take a city. Take the port city, Umm Qasr ・what the plan was. Well,
the British went in, they built a pipeline bringing water in from Kuwait; . . .
they brought ships in with food; they've been providing security. . . .
And does that mean you couldn't go in there and take a television camera or get
a still photographer and take a picture of something that was imperfect, untidy?
I could do that in any city in America. Think what's happened in our cities
when we've had riots and problems and looting. Stuff happens! But in terms of
what's going on in that country, it is a fundamental misunderstanding to see
those images over and over and over again of some boy walking out with a vase
and say, "Oh, my goodness, you didn't have a plan." That's nonsense. They know
what they're doing. And they're doing a terrific job. And it's untidy. And
freedom's untidy. And free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes
and do bad things. They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things.
And that's what's going to happen here. . . .
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