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投稿者 ひょうたん島の虻 日時 2006 年 9 月 24 日 20:38:32: T0THhg/RF1boM
 

ブログでの会議概要紹介及び、ヴァチカンニュース(下半分)。
バルセロナさんにsuggestされてSchönborn氏(4人のスピーカーの内の一人)何をしゃべったのか知りたい所であるが、現時点ではそれはいまだ見つからず。
話は違うが、ダーウインは経済学者ケインズと縁戚関係にあるそうな(兜町の妖怪、広瀬隆著より)。
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/09/intelligent_design_strikes_out.php

Intelligent Design strikes out at the Vatican
Category: Creationism
Posted on: September 7, 2006 8:45 PM, by PZ Myers
There's no official declaration of the Pope's recent consult on evolution, but news is leaking out…and the good news is that Intelligent Design is not going to have a place at the table, and didn't figure in the discussions at all. Catholic News has one source:
A participant at the Pope's closed door symposium on creation and evolution, Jesuit Fr Joseph Fessio, has denied speculation about a change in the Church's teaching on evolution, saying nothing presented at the meeting broke new ground and that American debates on Intelligent Design did not feature in discussions.
Declan Butler, in this week's Nature, also reports on the impression of the only biologist at the meeting (isn't that peculiar in itself, that they'd have a conference on the status of evolution in the church, and only have one informed attendee?):
Schönborn was one of four invited speakers at the meeting, which also included Robert Spaemann, a conservative German philosopher, and Paul Erbrich, a Jesuit priest who questions the random nature of evolution. The fourth speaker, the only working scientist present, was Peter Schuster, a molecular biologist and president of the Austrian Academy of Sciences.
In a break with tradition, the proceedings of the meeting will be published later this year, says Schuster, with a preface written by the Pope. The message will be to promote dialogue between faith and reason, Schuster says. Given the power struggles within the Church, however, the precise outcome of the overall debate is impossible to predict, he says: "We have to wait."
But discussions at the meeting suggest that the Church will probably affirm a form of theistic evolution, which posits the general principle that biological evolution is valid, although set in motion by God. At the same time, it seems likely to reject the fundamental intelligent-design principle that God was a watchmaker, intervening in the details. "Intelligent design as an intervention of God during evolution will not be an outcome," predicts Schuster. "I got the impression that there was general agreement that evolutionary biology is a undeniable science and not a hypothesis."
A few thoughts on the decision:
· It is good news that ID is not going to get any official endorsement from the Catholic church. The Discovery Institute has taken a beating lately, and this is not the time to slacken the pressure or give them any succor; we need to throttle that toxic weed until it is dead.
· Backing a form of theistic evolution, while still insupportable nonsense, is the best we could hope for from the Pope, I suppose. My dream that Ratzi would go into a conclave and emerge to announce that it was all a mistake, the papacy was dissolved, and good Catholics should all embrace an enlightened materialistic naturalism hasn't come true just yet.
· While we can be pleased that the Vatican hasn't found common cause with another institutional enemy of good science, ultimately their decision is irrelevant. "Eppur si muove," and all that―the world keeps spinning, the alleles keep changing, biological history has happened, and all the dogma of old men in funny hats won't change that.
http://www.cathnews.com/news/609/36.php
No shift in Church's position on evolution, Jesuit says


A participant at the Pope's closed door symposium on creation and evolution, Jesuit Fr Joseph Fessio, has denied speculation about a change in the Church's teaching on evolution, saying nothing presented at the meeting broke new ground and that American debates on Intelligent Design did not feature in discussions.

Catholic News Service reports that the annual gathering of former doctoral students of Pope Benedict, which was hosted in part by the Pontiff at his summer villa in Castel Gandolfo, outside Rome, discussed the relationship among faith, reason and science.

This year's topic was "Creation and Evolution," and one of the presenters was Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schonborn of Vienna, who has argued against what he called "ideological Darwinism."

This prompted media speculation that the Pope was considering a shift in the church's general acceptance of the theory of evolution.

But Fr Fessio, who attended the symposium, said nothing was presented at the meeting that "would break new ground or that lays the foundation for a new position."

He added that while participants discussed the relationship among faith, reason and science, "the whole American debate on Intelligent Design did not occur at all here".

Reuters also reports that the proceedings of the meeting will be published later this year.

The minutes will show how Catholic theologians see no contradiction between their belief in divine creation and the scientific theory of evolution, participants told reporters at the end of the meeting.

Controversy surrounding the theory of evolution has grown in the US, where conservative Christians who oppose teaching it in public schools promote rival views such as "Intelligent Design", which scientists reject as "creationism" in disguise.

Benedict has been "concerned for a long time, and especially now that he is Pope, about fostering a discussion between faith and reason," the Rev Stephan Horn, a German theologian who organised the sessions, told Reuters.


SOURCE
Participant: Pope's closed seminar didn't focus on intelligent design (Catholic News Service, 6/9/06)
Pope's evolution seminar to be published (USA Today, 6/9/06)

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