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酔っぱらってイスラエル揶揄する歌を歌って留置場に入れられた英国人の投稿 (その後さらに議論が発展)
http://www.asyura2.com/0601/dispute24/msg/240.html
投稿者 戦争屋は嫌いだ 日時 2006 年 8 月 24 日 07:56:56: d/vusjnSYDx0.
 

私の投稿の中の、「Thankfully in Britain, pointing out this fact does not warrant imprisonment, at least thus far. 英国では(欧州と違って)まだホロコーストに疑義を呈しても逮捕はされない。」のくだりを受けて、自分の逮捕経験を語る英国人が出現。反アラブの歌を歌っても逮捕されないのに不公平だと論じています。中々面白い展開になりました。

19. Ticktock said...
=Thankfully in Britain, pointing out this fact does not warrant imprisonment, at least thus far.

I was arrested on Friday night for singing anti-Isreali songs at a cider festival in Worcester. Granted, I was a little worse for wear, and possibly a little louder than I had realised too, but being hand-cuffed, taken to the station, and locked in a cell for the night seemed a little odd. Particularly as the banter was between myself and my friends, and didn't involve a complaint from any member of the public.

I had to accept a caution Sat. morning (as anybody who has been to court in the UK will know that justice is very expensive these days, and unless you are minted, it usually just gets worse if you appeal)) for 'Racially aggrivated harrassment'.

I apparently 'harrassed' a hypothetical Isreali, who may have overheard me. The fact that my drunken singing was in response to anti Arab/Iran/Hizzbolla taunts, didnt seem to register at all. It seems vocal criticism of Arabs/Persians and Hizzbolla/ Iran is legal, but exactly the same taunts aimed at Jews/Isreal is not

All a bit embarresing, and a warning to all scrumpy festival goers as to what can happen when you drink that loony stuff, but while not defending my drunken behaviour, Racial harrassment? Come on.

True Story I promise you!

Worrying times indeed.


Wednesday, August 23, 2006 04:28:00 PM
20. indiablue19 said...
Dear WFHPC said....

Funny, isn't it, we have the moxie to question whether democracy exists anymore or if it's just become some elaborate hoax and whether or not we all live on some leash at the behest of authorities who can yank our chain at any moment. And within a few paragraphs of posing the question we're worried whether we're under surveillance for raising such questions, and if we've said too much. Well, I guess we have the answer to our question about democracy right there. So much for freedom of speech.

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 06:11:39 PM
21. indiablue19 said...
Dainty Diana
If we're comparing credentials, I hold dual citizenship American and British, and was born, raised and educated through University in the States, then worked there as a corporate entrepreneur there for more than a decade. But the day I saw 9/11 perpetrated, and a madman "elected" by stealth were too sad and terrifying to contemplate. I leave an entire family over there because I want my children to be raised as citizens of the world who aren't mesmerized by shopping in the Mall and Disneyland thinking. Having lived here for five years they would never go back and are seeking all the education and information they can gather in pursuit of a true united world community. They've recognized the truth of how much is eliminated from the American media, to the detriment of the people. And, in an equivalent way, how much is slanted in the media here. What TickTock says about naive Americans and their shock at the world hatred of them is only too true. This seems to be the case in the UK as well, just with different middle management at the controls. It is a media induced problem for all.

TickTock...your experience is a frightening caution to everyone; almost unbelievable that this can be happening in the so-called civilized world. It makes one wonder whether the conspirators headed for Heathrow ever did a thing.

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 06:45:11 PM

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