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「死人に尋問だって?! アホか!」――パキスタンの新聞が米国の「アルカイダ第3の男」逮捕報道の矛盾を鋭く指摘
http://www.asyura.com/2003/war25/msg/260.html
投稿者 佐藤雅彦 日時 2003 年 3 月 06 日 01:07:49:

●米国政府が小躍りして喜んでいるという「アルカイダのナンバー3」
 こと、シェイフ・ハリド・ムハンマド“9・11事変容疑者”の
 逮捕の件について、パキスタンの新聞が「もう死んでると報じてたはずの
 ムハンマドをいまさら逮捕して尋問してるなんてどーなってるの?」と
 今回の逮捕劇をめぐる数々の矛盾点を指摘しています。

 ……少なくともホワイトハウス周辺は、夢想や妄想をばらまくネズミーランド
 になってしまったようですな。(笑)


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Interrogating the dead Al-Qaida, or Are we Stupid?

Asim Mughal
Updated on 2003-03-04 01:05:05
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写真:米国連邦捜査局(FBI)のファイルに載っていた
   シェイフ・ハリド・ムハンマドの写真
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There are shrill cries of success and sighs of relief surrounding a news report that is being hailed as the biggest catch so far: No.3 man, Sheikh Khalid Muhammad, of the dreaded Al Qaida is captured, alive! The biggest success in the global war against terrorism. This is certainly excellent news and both the Pakistani and the American authorities deserve congratulations.

Unfortunately, while the coalition is claiming success, there is a run for taking the credit. The American version of the news from likes of CNN, Foxnews, MSNBC hardly mentions the Pakistani role and makes it sound like Sheikh Khalid Muhammad was captured somewhere in Texas, not from Rawalpindi. The Pakistani version earlier claimed this to be a joint operation but now it is claimed to be 100% Pakistani operation (News Link Mar 3, 2003).

 【1】News Link Mar 3, 2003: http://www.paknews.com/main.php?id=4&date1=2003-03-03

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●矛盾その1:当初は米パ共同作戦で逮捕したと報じられていたが、その後パキスタン当局は米国は関わっていなかったと主張。
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The contradictions do not stop here. Americans claim that Sheikh Khalid Muhammad is in their custody and is now being interrogated for the second day. Whereas, the Pakistanis are saying that he has not been extradited to any country. Furthermre, it is being said that Sheikh Khalid will be extradited to Kuwait.

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●矛盾その2:米国はムハンマド容疑者を自国に連行して尋問中だと報じたが、パキスタン当局はまだ国外に出していないと主張し、クウェイトに引き渡す予定であると言明している。
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Now why Kuwait one asks? Sheikh Khalid Muhammad is being referred to as a citizen of anywhere from Kuwait, Pakistan, Yemen, up to holding 20 passports of different countries. What is his real nationality?

Now, about his role as the key planner of all past terrorism acts and all future acts. It is said that Khalid was the chief/key planner of 9/11 attacks? But wasn't that attributed to Osama Bin Laden? But wait! It was not too long ago that it was claimed that "key planner of the attacks on World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh" was arrested.

 【2】key planner of the attacks on World Trade Centre
   and the Pentagon, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh" was arrested.
   http://www.paknews.com/flash.php?id=10&date1=2002-11-02

So, who is the real man?

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●矛盾その3:米国はムハンマド容疑者が「テロ」の主犯だと宣伝しているが、それではこれまで宣伝してきたウサマ・ビン・ラディンの役割は何だったのか? また「ラムズィ・ビン・アルシブが主犯だ」と宣伝してきたこれまでの主張とも食い違う。“9・11事変”の主犯はいったい誰だ、という根本的な疑問に突き当たる。
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A more troubling problem is that it was reported by both American and Pakistani authorities back in September 2002 that Sheikh Khalid Muhammad was killed in a raid. The reason we remember him vividly was the way his death was dramatized. He was reported as writing words on a wall with his own blood as he was dying ( News Link Sept 15, 2002).

 【3】News Link Sept 15, 2002:
   http://www.paknews.com/flash.php?id=17&date1=2002-09-15

It was reported a few days after the report of a raid that Khalid's wife and children were in custody and being interrogated. ( News Link Sept 20, 2002)

 【4】News Link Sept 20, 2002:
   http://www.paknews.com/main.php?id=2&date1=2002-09-20

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●矛盾その4:そもそもムハンマド容疑者は昨年9月に殺されたことになっている。その死にざまは“血文字で壁に遺恨を残した”などと劇的に伝えられたのですでにおなじみだ。しかも「殺された」数日後には、ムハンマド容疑者の妻子が逮捕されて尋問を受けている。
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So, maybe all this very confusing to an average buch of people like us, but perhaps someone can tell us who the real Sheikh Khalid Muhammad is? How can Sheikh Khalid Muhammad be in America, Pakistan and Kuwait at the same time? If he died in the gun battle on Sept 15, 2002 in Karachi, who has been raided and arrested on March 3, 2003?

We will all feel much safer when told the truth, rather than some raids and captures which do not add up, as it seems.

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No Foreign Agency Involved In Rawalpindi Operation
Updated on 2003-03-03 09:57:34


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: Mar 03 (PNS)- Interior Minister, Sayyad Faisal Salih Hayat said on Sunday that no foreign agency was involved in the Rawalpindi operation conducted yesterday to nab two foreigners.

The alleged miscreants were said to have links with Al-Qaida. One of them, a foreign national, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, is believed to have been an important member of the inner core of Al-Qaida.

The Minister said that reports that some of them were handed over to the United States are incorrect, adding that Pakistani agencies would conduct a thorough investigation about the crimes they had committed on Pakistani soil.

He said they would be treated according to Pakistani laws. If a request was made by the country of their origin, Kuwait, then Pakistan would deal with the case according to its rules and regulations, he added.

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Al-Qaeda trying to re-establish in Pak
Updated on 2002-11-02 11:29:22

NEW YORK: Nov 2(PNS) As the US hunted worldwide for leaders of al-Qaeda this summer, a key planner of the attacks on World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh, was living quietly in an apartment about 16 km from the American Consulate in Karachi, Pakistani law enforcement officials were on Friday quoted by the "Times" as saying.


Members of the terrorist outfit are now trying to re-establish their network in Pakistan with support from local people, helped by Internet communication, the officials were quoted as saying.


The Pakistani officials are convinced that al-Qaeda's head of operations, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed remains in Karachi, hiding in an apartment in this maze of 14 million people, the Times report said.


At some point in August, al-Shibh -- who has been subsequently arrested -- and six others suspected of being members of the outfit began arriving at an apartment building in the middle-class Defence Housing Authority area of Karachi, New York Times quoted them as saying.


Along with his al-Qaeda friends, al-Shibh spent his days logging on to the Internet via satellite telephones. At night, neighbours saw them playing cards and laughing, the officials said.


Their new home was two large apartments on the top floor of an empty four-story apartment building with small shops on the ground floor. There are thousands of similar apartment buildings across Karachi.


A Pakistani militant had been instructed to rent the apartment in his own name two months earlier for al-Shibh and friends and wait, officials said, adding that he had not been told who would live there.


Each suspected al-Qaeda member took elaborate precautions to avoid detection as he arrived at the apartment, the officials said. "They came one by one," said one official. "It took them 15 days to assemble there."


For the next month, al-Shibh and his associates never left the building, officials said. The Pakistani man and the wife of one suspected al-Qaeda member took food and other supplies there.


The men appeared to have no shortage of money and weapons. The police found large amount of Pakistani currency in the apartment and a small arsenal of hand grenades, rifles and pistols.


The Pakistani authorities believed that the group was manufacturing compact discs in the apartment, possibly for recruiting purposes.


They also said that al-Shibh communicated with other members of al-Qaeda through the Internet.


Pakistani officials were quoted as saying that Bin al-Shibh's arrest disrupted al-Qaeda's network in the city but did not eliminate it. A year-long crackdown by President Pervez Musharraf has failed to stop Pakistani militants from aiding al-Qaeda members.

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How Pak intelligence hit al-Qaeda on Sept 11
Updated on 2002-09-14 22:34:22

KARACHI, September 15 (PNS): Sitting in a black sedan, four agents of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) watched intently as a posse of Pakistan military intelligence and police officials climbed a narrow staircase to enter a second floor apartment of a four-apartment building in Karachi's posh residential district of Defence Society early morning on September 11.

The raiding party had specific information from two Yemenis arrested in another raid a few hours earlier that a "bunch" of al-Qaeda suspects was hiding in the Defence Society apartment. As the uniformed and plain clothes intelligence operatives and policemen barged into the apartment, six Arabic-speaking men and a woman immediately offered themselves for arrest, according to the Pakistani official sources who participated in the operation.

The trouble erupted when a young man holding a grenade in one hand and an automatic weapon in the other suddenly emerged from the adjacent flat and lobbed the grenade at the security personnel, who were guiding the arrested men towards the staircase.

The surprise attack created a commotion in which injured military and policemen ran down to take positions, while four of the six arrested Arabs freed themselves and rushed back into the apartment.

At this juncture the black sedan, carrying the American intelligence agents immediately left the scene. They returned once the situation had been contained and the suspected al-Qaeda men had been moved to an undisclosed military facility near the Karachi airport, according to an informed official. "While we were making calls for ambulances and reinforcement the al-Qaeda men took strategic positions on the building's rooftop and a window that provided a wide view of the area," according to an official present on the scene.

"Casualties from our side only occurred due to the surprise grenade attack," said a senior Karachi police official, who also confirmed that among the wounded security personnel were an colonel and a major of the country's military intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

The ISI officials were the first to be wounded, because they were leading the operation from the front, said an official and added that an injured ISI colonel stayed on the scene for three hours after being hit by several pieces of shrapnel from the hand grenade.

During the firefight, six al-Qaeda men armed with a pistol and an AK-47 assault rifle resisted about 200 Karachi policemen for three hours and surrendered only after a volley of teargas shells suffocated them in their apartment.

Senior police sources confirmed on Saturday that among the two al-Qaeda suspects who died in the gun battle was one Pakistani associate of the suspected terrorists. "The Pakistani was such a motivated extremist that he inscribed Allah o' Akbar with his blood on the wall before he died of bullet wounds on the chest and the neck," according to a police official who confessed that the scene disturbed him emotionally.

The other man, an unidentified Yemeni who fell prey to a police sniper on the building's rooftop, was initially identified by a Karachi police investigator as Khalid Mohammad Sheikh. Latter reports said that Khalid Mohammad Sheikh was being held by the police for his direct role in the kidnapping and subsequent murder of the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl and therefore rejected that the idea that the dead man was Khalid Mohammad Sheikh, one of the most wanted man on the FBI list. Khalid Sheikh is believed to be a key conspirator in the September 11 terrorist attack case.

A senior intelligence official in Karachi said that on the basis of statements and evidence gathered from the key suspects in the Daniel Pearl case the civil and military investigators firmly believed that Khalid Sheikh was actually the Yemeni who had slit Pearl's neck before the camera.

Karachi police and other security officials suspect that the eight Yemenis arrested during the recent anti al-Qaeda crackdown may include the two Yemenis who are believed to have aided Khalid Sheikh in the killing and subsequent decapitation of Pearl's body.

Most police officials said that they had reason to believe that Khalid Sheikh was still hiding in Karachi and he was "definitely" in touch with some renegade elements of Jaish-e-Mohammad, a banned jihadi organisation.

Pakistani security officials privately conceded that Pakistani law-enforcement agencies had no independently authenticated pictures of either Ramzi bin al-Shibah or Khalid Mohammad Sheikh, hence they had no choice but to rely on the press photographs or the pictures provided by the Americans of the most wanted al-Qaeda pair.

Pakistani officials have said that the recent raid in Defence Society was actually one of the three raids conducted with an active "American technical and intelligence support" in 48 hours between September 9 and 11. "Ramzi was arrested in one of the three raids conducted in quick succession, but he was not netted in the raid that involved the gun battle," said a senior Pakistani intelligence official who admitted that Ramzi was "conclusively" identified by the American intelligence officials once the crackdown was completed.

"This was the most coordinated strike against al-Qaeda sleep cells in Pakistan since September 11," claimed a Pakistani intelligence official. "Without doubt these people were interconnected and have ties with al-Qaeda, but our reasoning is that they were all on the run from Afghanistan."

Growing evidence, officials said, suggested that most al-Qaeda suspects after fleeing Afghanistan took shelter in major Pakistani cities and in the tribal areas. "Nothing is available so far to suggest that either Ramzi or any of his associates were planning a terrorist action in Pakistan," an official said.

Officials said that in the three days of investigation they had not been able to find the answer for the most important questions regarding the financial sources of Ramzi or any of his associates. "You need solid steady income to maintain boarding and lodging for at least a dozen people in the best residential district of Karachi," according to an official source.

Initial investigation, police sources said, showed that Ramzi bin al-Shibah and his associates were living in the raided Defence Society apartment since he was interviewed there by an Al-Jazeera TV channel correspondent in mid-June.

Pakistani officials said on Saturday that the decision had already been taken at the highest level to hand over the recently arrested suspected al-Qaeda members to the US authorities and not to the German government which had issued an international arrest warrant for Ramzi bin al-Shibah for being an active associate of Mohammad Atta, the alleged mastermind of the September 11 terrorist attack on America.

"The Americans can sort the matter out with the Germans, both are our active partners in the war against terrorism," according to a senior Pakistani official who informed that Ramzi was being kept at a secret military location near Karachi airport and they were ready for his quick transfer to a US plane for onward journey to an undisclosed location within the next 24 hours.

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Terrorists tied to US consulate bombing arrested: Moin
Updated on 2002-09-20 11:14:13


ISLAMABAD, September 20 (PNS): Interior Minister Moinuddin Haider on Thursday confirmed the arrest of terrorists who were allegedly behind the car bomb attack on the US consulate in Karachi, the murder of US reporter Daniel Pearl and assassination attempt on President General Pervez Musharraf.

"They are involved in the U.S. consulate bombing for sure and they earlier had attempted - not this time - on president's life," he told reporters after attending a seminar here at Institute of Strategic Studies.

To a question Moin acknowledged that terrorists were using latest satellite system, which Pakistan government did not have that was the reason we have no other option except to seek help of US Federal Bureau of investigation to track down terrorist groups.

He maintained that law enforcing agencies and Karachi police were carrying out the operation against suspected terrorists in light of information they collected from various sources about their hideouts.

He further informed that law-enforcing agencies had been able to arrest the group, who was allegedly tried to blow up motorcade of President General Pervez Musharraf few months back.

In reply to another question, the minister said he did not have information about how many terrorists were handed over to United States. However, he pointed out that government had extradited those persons, which were sought by US administration.

Moin insisted that only country's law enforcing agencies were carrying out the ongoing operation against suspected terrorists and no FBI officials were involved in this practice.

The terrorists who were arrested on Wednesday from Karachi were suspected members of Jehadul Elami, the group according to Moin was directly involved in the murder of US reporter Denial Pearl.

He informed that authorities had arrested 19 members of this terrorist organization and raids were being carried out to arrest remaining suspects.

He also confirmed that two children of an alleged member of Al-Qaida, Sheikh Khalid were in police custody.

Earlier, speaking at a Seminar, the minister spoke at length about various steps taken by government including Madrasa and reforms and other measures to curb sectarianism and terrorism.


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●参考までに、今回のムハンマド容疑者逮捕を報じたロイター記事を示して
 おきます。この記事には2種類の動画サイトがリンクされています。
 そこでFBI指名手配の顔写真と、実際に捕まった容疑者の顔が出ています。
 見比べて下さい。同一人物とは思えません。……まあ9・11事変がらみの
 ウサマ・ビン・ラディン映像でこうした“突然変異”は慣れっこですけどね。

 ウサマ・ビン・ラディンなんか、整形手術の回数ではマイケル・ジャクソン
 を凌ぐのではないでしょーか?(苦笑

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【参考】

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030302/wl_nm/pakistan_qaeda_dc_13

World - Reuters

Pakistan Arrests Sept. 11 Mastermind, U.S. Elated

Sat Mar 1, 9:16 PM ET

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By Tahir Ikram and Amir Zia

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan arrested the suspected mastermind of the September 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, on Saturday in what U.S. and Pakistani officials hailed as the biggest catch so far in the global war on terror.

Pakistani authorities said Mohammed, branded by Washington as one of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s "most senior and significant lieutenants," would be extradited to the United States. But a U.S. official said Mohammed was expected to be handed to U.S. authorities and interrogated in an undisclosed foreign country.

The White House said Mohammed, one of three al Qaeda suspects to be detained in an early morning swoop in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi, was "a key al Qaeda planner and the mastermind of the September 11 attacks."

"The United States commends Pakistani and U.S. authorities on the completion of a successful joint operation, which resulted in the detention of several al Qaeda operatives," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said in a statement.

Analysts describe Mohammed as a pivotal figure in the al Qaeda network who vetted all its recruits and who may know the whereabouts of both bin Laden and Mullah Mohammed Omar, fugitive leader of Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s former Taliban government.

"It was the work of Pakistani intelligence agencies... It is a big achievement. He is the kingpin of al Qaeda," Rashid Qureshi, spokesman for Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, told Reuters.

President Bush (news - web sites) views Pakistan as a key supporter in the war on terror he declared after blaming al Qaeda for the September 11 suicide plane attacks on New York and Washington.

PAKISTANI SWOOP

Pakistani Information Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad told Reuters Mohammed, believed to be in his late 30s, would be handed over to the United States.

"Right now, I can't say whether Mohammed will be moved tomorrow or next week. It could be next week, it could be tomorrow," he said.

Mohammed was one of three al Qaeda suspects detained in a raid on a house in Rawalpindi, a teeming city near the Pakistani capital Islamabad.

Officials said the suspects were a Pakistani and two foreign nationals of Arab origin.

In June 2002, U.S. investigators identified Mohammed as the probable mastermind behind the September 11, 2001, attacks.

He was indicted in the United States in 1996 for his alleged role in a plot to blow up 12 American civilian airliners over the Pacific.

Ahmed Rashid, author of an acclaimed book on the Taliban and its links to al Qaeda, described Mohammed as a brilliant organizer who knew everyone in bin Laden's operation.

"All the recruits in the past 11 years have passed through his hands," he told Reuters.

"He may well know about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and Mullah (Muhammed) Omar. He may know all the plans al Qaeda had after September 11," he said.


The Pakistani national held, Ahmed Qadoos, was arrested in Rawalpindi at about 3:30 a.m. on Saturday (5:30 p.m. EST on Friday) by armed security officials, who also took away a computer. "They shut family members in a room at gunpoint," his cousin Omar Khan told Reuters. "He is not linked with anything."

Ahmed has a wife and two children and lived with his parents. His father Qadoos is a retired microbiologist who had worked for the United Nations (news - web sites) and has also lived abroad.

Mohammed was born in Kuwait, but his family is from Baluchistan, one of two Pakistani provinces bordering Afghanistan, according to a detailed profile published last year in the Los Angeles Times.

He is thought to be a relative of Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, now serving a life sentence for involvement in the 1993 bombing of New York's World Trade Center, later destroyed in the September 11 attacks.

CRACKDOWN ON AL QAEDA

Pakistani security agencies have been hunting al Qaeda members with the help of U.S. intelligence agents since the ousting of the hardline Islamic Taliban government in neighboring Afghanistan in late 2001.

Hundreds of al Qaeda members and their Taliban allies are thought to have crossed into Pakistan since U.S.-led forces began hunting for them in Afghanistan after the end of Taliban rule.

Pakistan says it has arrested more than 400 suspected Islamic militants since late 2001, but Mohammed is by far the biggest catch yet.

The United States put a $25 million price tag on his head and the FBI (news - web sites) posted him on its "most wanted" list of 22 individuals in October 2001.

"If bin Laden has been the architect of al Qaeda, Mohammed has been its engineer," the Los Angeles Times quoted U.S. anti-terrorist investigators as saying last year.

Mohammed studied in the United States for a time, but ended up in Pakistan's northwestern city of Peshawar in the late 1980s where he and his brothers are said to have linked up with a small Arab circle that included bin Laden.

U.S. investigators have been quoted as saying he traveled the globe as a key al Qaeda recruiter and coordinator.

He is suspected of involvement in the bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998 and the attack on a U.S. warship in Yemen in 2000.

After the events of September 11, 2001, Mohammed is thought to have moved between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

In September last year, Karachi police identified Mohammed as the man hit by a police sniper in a shootout with militants. This was later denied by a suspected Pakistani militant.

A Pakistani newspaper, reporting on the clash, said investigators believed Mohammed was the man who slit the throat of U.S. reporter Daniel Pearl in front of a camera after the journalist disappeared in Karachi in January 2002 while investigating a story on Islamic extremists.

Pearl's dismembered body was found months later in a shallow grave on the outskirts of Karachi.

Other al Qaeda figures that Pakistan has arrested include Ahmed Omar Abdel Rahman, known as Binalshibh in the West, who was a key figure in the Hamburg cell suspected of carrying out the September 11 attacks. He is now in U.S. custody.

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【1】Pakistan Official Comments on Al- Qaida Arrest
(AP Video)

【2】Alleged 9/ 11 Plotter Taken From Pakistan
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●上記の【1】と【2】の「ムハンマド容疑者」の顔がかなり違うんですが……。
 プチ整形でもしたのかな? それともマイケル・ジャクソンみたいに
 「自然と成長したのさ」なのでしょーか?(苦笑)

☆、。・:*:・` .。・::*:・*:・`☆、 。・:*:・・
・`☆、。.。・:*:・`☆、。・:*:・`.。・

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